tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207584811195702217.post7797497968093737225..comments2023-12-20T10:44:37.768-08:00Comments on The Incidental Cyclist: Standing in the dark in the middle of the roadKate (and Mike)http://www.blogger.com/profile/12314278577720373140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207584811195702217.post-84174311918757405182012-11-25T10:01:45.857-08:002012-11-25T10:01:45.857-08:00I know, just that this incident occurred in an int...I know, just that this incident occurred in an intersection, so 144(22) would apply here. (sorry for the delay)Centretownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03798054152996264061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207584811195702217.post-7365471313771143352012-11-17T16:42:33.711-08:002012-11-17T16:42:33.711-08:00Charles, 144(22) refers to signalized intersection...Charles, 144(22) refers to signalized intersections. It just means that if there is a marked pedestrian crossing at a light, pedestrians must use it, it doesn't say anything about pedestrians crossing the road in general.Matt Rosehttp://folkwolf.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207584811195702217.post-57502264335535403922012-11-15T21:49:53.095-08:002012-11-15T21:49:53.095-08:00Matt - Note HTA Section 144(22): "Where porti...Matt - Note HTA Section 144(22): "Where portions of a roadway are marked for pedestrian use, no pedestrian shall cross the roadway except within a portion so marked. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 144 (22)". (Section 144(1)'s definitions imply that this applies to parts of an intersection outside the marked crosswalk) Also, section 144(28) gives right of way to pedestrians who *lawfully* enter the roadway for the purpose of crossing. Subsections 23 to 27 describe when this is lawful.<br /><br />Kate - Based on the description, this sounds like one of those student types who doesn't own a car, and thus wouldn't have auto insurance. My inkling is that people who bike by choice (i.e. despite owning a car, not in lieu of) are the kind who have the sense to at the very least use lights, though of course that's a generalization. <br /><br />This person was lucky you were the driver, Kate. Someone else less attentive might have made us another headline. <br /><br />I find low tire pressure to be a good indicator that a cyclist is about to do something stupid (or at least illegal), like veer left without shoulder checking, jumping onto a sidewalk, riding the wrong way or running a red light/stop sign without stopping and looking. I make a habit of checking the tires of cyclists I approach on the roadway and if they're visibly low I am extra cautious when passing them (on my bike).Centretownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03798054152996264061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207584811195702217.post-2076169583830823142012-11-15T20:06:35.873-08:002012-11-15T20:06:35.873-08:00Hi Kate. I'm sad to hear Mike is not getting a...Hi Kate. I'm sad to hear Mike is not getting as much use as in the past :-( Of course having access to a car, for rock climbing trips and a long commute is a good thing. <br />As a cyclist and a driver I understand your concerns. People can be unpredictable regardless of their mode of transport. I don't want to "defend" the cyclist in your story, I'm not 100% clear where she was or how much danger she was in. Maybe you over reacted? Maybe not, I don't want to judge. I am just happy everyone walked away unscathed. <br />I am quite willing to forgive cyclists of many infractions: Biking against traffic, sidewalk cycling, stop sign & red light jumping, etc. Still, I'm often confronted by behaviour that even I can't excuse... Cyclists and motorists are human and unfortunately capable of really poor judgement. <br />Count yourself lucky that your experience with cycling will inform and improve your driving. As your driving will improve and inform your cycling. muddybikehttp://muddybike.blogspot.ca/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207584811195702217.post-18258674029599693792012-11-15T19:12:18.623-08:002012-11-15T19:12:18.623-08:002 things.
1. It is not illegal to walk across th...2 things.<br /><br />1. It is not illegal to walk across the street, dumb in that case, but not illegal. see Eric Darwin's latest about crossing the street as a pedestrian.<br /><br />2. If the driver rear-ended you, for any reason, they were following too closely, and are automatically at fault.<br /><br />As much as I love biking, I do drive into work two or three times a week in the summertime and every day in the winter (live downtown, work in Kanata, I know) so I have a lot of experience driving and biking. As much as some cyclists behaviour horrifies me (biking the wrong way on one-ways is a pet peeve of mine) the illegal things that cyclists do are way less dangerous to themselves or others than the illegal things I see drivers doing every day<br />Matt Rosehttp://folkwolf.netnoreply@blogger.com